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Faber, Buchy address public union concerns

By Bob Robinson
Editor

GREENVILLE – “$74 million in savings to local government entities equates to 1,500 firefighters, police and teachers who won’t have to be laid off,” said State Sen. Keith Faber (Dist. 12).

This was part of the message to about 200 attendees at Friday night’s Townhall meeting on Senate Bill 5 with Faber and State Representative Jim Buchy (Dist. 77).

While SB5 is a controversial attempt to deal with the contract issues of public employee unions, it attracted little attention outside of the unions themselves, some attendees of which were “bussed in” from other areas, according to Darke County Commissioner Mike Stegall.

“One of the groups came from as far away as New York,” he said. He estimated that about 20 percent of those against SB5 were not local.

“We’re disappointed that more of the media didn’t show up,” said one program participant who was handing out fact sheets to those attending. She noted that only The Advocate and County News Online were there at that point.

Faber and Buchy attempted to address the concerns of union members as well as answer their questions.

“Everybody wants more,” Faber said. “We don’t have more.” He noted that if we do nothing, we will continue to have problems.

Buchy said the state currently faces an $8 billion budget hole, plus it owes the federal government $2.4 billion for unemployment benefits.

“That money will have to be repaid,” he said, adding that “we are spending and taxing at a pace that is unsustainable.”

Faber said that Ohio is going to have to rein in spending, rein in regulations and change how government works.

He added that statewide, newspapers don’t often agree with conservative Republicans… but with Senate Bill 5 they do. He said that two of those in agreement were the Cleveland Plain Dealer and Akron Beacon Journal.

He emphasized that SB5 does not eliminate collective bargaining. It only modifies the rules on how it will work.

It establishes a minimum health care participation of 15 percent (in the private sector it is about 25 percent). That’s a minimum… participation in excess of that will still be part of the collective bargaining process.

He said it also requires public employees to pay their own share of retirement, as it prohibits the practice of forcing public entities to “pick up” the employee’s share.

“The goal is to level the playing field for these entities,” Faber said.

Buchy said that layoffs won’t be based solely upon seniority. Other factors, such as peer review, performance and education must also be considered. He emphasized, however, that this bill does not require employees with seniority to be laid off.

During the presentation attendees filled out question sheets that were given to the two legislators for response. Questions and answers often solicited applause or boo’s from the audience.

One question asked why the budget had to be balanced on the backs of public employees. Buchy noted that public employees were not being blamed, adding that they are thanked for coming in every day and doing their jobs.

“It is not being balanced on the backs of public employees,” he said. “Budget cuts will apply to everybody. Specifics? We’ll find out Tuesday (when Gov. John Kasich submits his budget for the next biennium).”

Another question asked if elected officials were taking pay cuts.

Buchy said that all levels of government are in need of prioritizing, noting that state and county public servants have been at static pay levels since 2008.

When asked about public employees being able to strike, Faber noted that there are too many “perils of public strikes.”

He said the right to strike does not exist for firefighters and police, nor does it exist at most federal levels.

Buchy also noted that SB5 is now in the House for consideration, and that there will likely be some modifications before it is passed. The Senate and the House have to be in agreement before it can go to Kasich for his signature. Once that happens, it will be another 90 days before it goes into effect.

Facts on SB5 as it was passed by the Ohio Senate:

“SB 5 does not take away collective bargaining in Ohio. It ensures transparency. It provides the public with information at each step of the collective bargaining process.”

“Teachers with continuing contracts may keep those contracts.”

“Employees will be able to cash out 50 percent of sick leave upon retirement, but not in excess of 1,000 hours. Sick leave will be capped at two weeks per year (instead of three) for employees of any county, municipal, and township offices, any state college or university, and any county board of developmental disabilities.”

“Public employees are eligible for an annual maximum of six weeks of paid vacation prior to 20 years of service, three personal days and 12 paid holidays.”

“Prohibits pension pickups for public employees.”

“Establishes a minimum (15 percent) that employees must pay for their share of healthcare benefits.”

“Requires merit-based pay for public employees, but permits an employer to consider longevity/seniority as a factor when hiring or reducing staff.”

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